A new lightsaber made its debut in the Star Wars: The Force Awakens trailer, and as you might expect it’s stirred a great deal of controversy across the Internet.
The cross-hilt lightsaber is like the New Coke of Star Wars.
— Heidi N Moore (@moorehn) November 28, 2014
Best part of the Star Wars trailer: the nerd argument online about the practical implications of cross guard on light saber
— Robert Stephens (@rstephens) November 28, 2014
Hi, I'm the guy who designs a new light saber for every Star Wars property. Next up is some kind of lasso I guess. Then a hammer
— sweaty five dollars (@iscoff) November 28, 2014
Star Wars V!!? Looks cool.
That lightsaber?
I'll be the nerd who says it's impractical and idiotic. Thank you, I'm still single, ladies.
— Connor MacDonald (@SamuraiCorndog) November 28, 2014
I hope in the last scene of the new Star Wars movie the bad guy dies of humiliation after everyone laughs at his dumb lightsaber hilt thing
— Sean, From On Line (@asimplesean) November 28, 2014
Listen… I'm as happy as anyone else about the Star Wars trailer. But really with that lightsaber hilt?
— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) November 28, 2014
So controversial that even the French are up in arms.
"The lightsaber from 'Star Wars VII', is it also a corkscrew?" http://t.co/aZikL2uvX6
— Andrew Lebovich (@tweetsintheME) November 28, 2014
Many folks (way too many, you may be thinking) are concerned that the unidentified Sith in the trailer could unintentionally slice his hand because of a dangerous-looking crossguard. Which is not an entirely misplaced concern, all things considered.
Maybe he’s just a later-generation Skywalker who learned from experience by adopting a claymore-like hilt to protect his forearm from other lightsabers?
The Washington Post’s Andrea Peterson spoke to “certified master bladesmith” Kevin Cashen to get clarification. He said that while the crossguard is indeed meant to protect in that way, the lightsaber version “would be very bad to have around your hand.”
The crossguard could totally work. Here’s how. http://t.co/Eduy96IEt1 pic.twitter.com/60kNXOxgm5
— Brian Fung (@b_fung) November 28, 2014
Watch as @b_fung goes full expanded universe to explain how a lightsaber hilt could be lightsaber-proof http://t.co/kCbJawKMoV
— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) November 28, 2014
The newspaper that brought down Richard Nixon has two articles about lightsaber design.http://t.co/x3UQxuTcaw http://t.co/chXk2Tc7m4”
— Byron Tau (@ByronTau) November 28, 2014
But the Post was on top of this developing story like Woodward and Bernstein on Watergate, and Brian Fung added some deep reporting:
In the Star Wars universe, there are certain rare materials that are thought to be lightsaber-resistant. Among these are substances like phrik, cortosis and Mandalorian iron, which have been used to create weapons and armor that can deflect or short-circuit lightsaber beams. There's a precedent for lightsabers made of phrik: Emperor Palpatine's lightsaber was, according to Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith: The Visual Dictionary. In Star Wars video games, cortosis has been shown to block lightsabers, and sometimes shut them down.
I think I have the high ground in @TheSwitch's dueling lightsaber design coverage. http://t.co/QQnOurNef5 http://t.co/8w1IATuYdW
— Andrea Peterson (@kansasalps) November 28, 2014
Let's talk about the new 'Star Wars' lightsaber http://t.co/4DWJqkDVfJ via @nuzzel
— Farhad Manjoo (@fmanjoo) November 28, 2014
Not to be outdone, The Verge proffered an alternative theory (from a commenter) for the lightsaber hilt’s usefulness: “maybe this guy is an old Sith ‘reawakened,’ and that he has an early model lightsaber.”
Reawakened Sith? Are we finally going to see zombies, complete with antiquated lightsabers, in the Star Wars universe?
The apparent design flaw bothered TechCrunch’s Darrell Etherington enough that he decided to try his hand at fixing it, adding a metal guard below the hilt to protect the wielder’s hand.
Of course, the trailer only clocks in at 88 quick seconds and we get almost no context whatsoever for the odd-looking new lightsaber’s place in Star Wars canon. Given the creepy, snowy forest the Sith is walking through, maybe the hilt is just some sort of advanced hand-warmer technology?
Or maybe it was just meant to look strikingly cool.
I feel like that stupid lightsaber is exactly the kind of stupid lightsaber a kid would draw, which is totally the point of Star Wars.
— John S. Troutman (@TheOnlyTrout) November 28, 2014
What do you think? Is the new Star Wars lightsaber a forward-thinking innovation in Sith weaponry or Jar Jar Binks-level ridiculous?
People who care about something as stupid like this are definitely stupider then I am and I have an average intelligence. So half the internet should be pissed
You are new to the series then
you’re clearly “juuuuuuuuust barely about average intelligence”, so, um… “congrats for that, as it is a lot better than some”?
secondly, the whole thing in itself (cross-hilt) on a lightsaber is just idiotic. next, for people to push it past stuff like “______pick any topic that should actually be handled and focused on at least as much as this______” is inane, indeed, but at least it’s not Kim Kardashian saying something (literally any 2 words she can string together is “stupidity”) about breaking the internet w/ her big bottom ’cause it’s apparently got more brains in it than her head.
…and by no means do i mean to say that in reference to Kanye, her lil POP STAR who likes fishdix, being in there.
sooooooooo, “it’s all kind of completely backwards and upside-down”.
You’re idiotic. Trying put reality on a fiction object in a fictional universe. Stop being a god damn moron and enjoy the bloody thing.
The term is “suspension of disbelief”. That is, yes fiction is “made up” but it must still be constructed in a way that could perceived as PLAUSIBLE. The minute made up stuff delves into the realm of “there is just no way that makes any sense in any context, real or imagined” that takes people out of the story and is bad story telling. When people start think your story is utterly absurd, you lose your audience. The point of story telling is to _keep your audience engaged_, not to chase them away because you insult their intelligence.
Even in make-believe there are still limits. One thing is for things to have practical purpose. IN this case, if the cross-hilt would just make for a more unwieldy sword that is more dangerous to oneself – why would you build it that way given the it is supposed help keep you from getting killed rather than make it more likely to get killed?
“Try putting reality on a fiction object in a fictional universe.” < Then mentions GOD.. Bwahahaha.. Studies on intelligence did no justice..
The word you mean is “than”, not “then”. So, you are correct. You’re not above average in intelligence.
Actually, this is very poor logic; word misuse correlates with ignorance, not lack of intelligence. There is such a thing as a genius who has poor English skills. Just because you don’t know something does not mean you’re stupid. You’re only stupid if you can’t learn new things. That said, if you ever makes this mistake again, then you are exactly what you’re accusing the other guy of being.
Anybody can accuse anybody else of being stupid and everybody on the internet does. Sadly, it’s usually done without any self-awareness, which is way worse than just being stupid.
The light saber is nothing more then a “laser sword” that said cross guards on real swords are on there for a reason, hand protection .Personally I live the new look .
“you live the new look”
What’s that like?
The only problem is that the cross guard is laser as well which would hinder the maneuverability of the light saber. the minute you do a block that brings the sword close to your body you will injure your self if any of the ends of the cross guards are pointing towards you. The cross hilt, is necessary at all, should have been made of Beskar (Mandolorian Iron) which a lightsaber cannot penetrate. I am not sure why everyone is outraged at what this guy has done to what we know about Star Wars, this is but the start of a new Star Wars with its own new story line which now seems to include its own equipment functionality.
umm,,,,yeah, until some jedi slices off the emitter to one of those “crossguards” and WOOPS! there goes his hand. or fingers, whichever one gets sliced off.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber
Not the same thing according to the description.
Who was the dummy that thought that this new light saber looked good on the computer monitor!! IT IS TERRIBLE! I might boycott the movie because of it, in fact. I was excited up until I saw that stupid light saber! Jar-Jar Binks all over again. Star Wars has been ruined! There is no more creativity left in Hollywood. . . Sadness.
Ok you are dumb. This lightsaber has been in Star Wars series for a long time and it is called crossguard lightsaber. Look it up
Not the same design:
The crossguard lightsaber was essentially a regular lightsaber with a second blade emitter protruding near the first one at a 45-degree angle to the axis of the hilt. The blade the second emitter emitted was dagger-sized. Roblio Darté’s hilt was also built with a slight curve.
WRONG. crossguard lightsaber is a part of the EU, NOT the main series. any real starwars fan knows this.
That doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid.
Any real starwars fan could come up with several ways off the cuff for this lightsaber to be viable. People wanna boycott already? i’m sure they wont lose sleep over you
Something this simple making it through gives me no hope in the movie being any gogoodits a simple design that anyone can see.
I dunno, where else but Hollywood would they have a sword with a handguard that would slice off your hand when you touch it? They were able to make man-sized saber-proof shields as far back as the first episode, so I’d think that a shielded metal crossbar with the metal resistant to being cut by a lightsaber would have been better. The shield would protect the crossbar from saber attacks, then if/when the shield is depleted or damaged the crossbar would be able to handle a few more hits. It’s not like it’s often when the crossbar would take a hit, nor would the crossbar be in contact with the blade for very long at a time.
You’re an idiot.
You have to be kidding, right? No one can say stupid, idiotic comments like that and mean it. Star Wars is ruined because you don’t like the lightsaber? Nah… no one is that dumb (I hope).
Oh no, you’re not going because of the lightsaber?! They’ll definitely learn with your lack of presence. They’ll be lucky if they can get by without your money.
That new crossguard style lightsaber is AWESOME. It’s about time they did something new with it, and whether the “crossguard” style sword makes sense or not, well, we will all have to wait and see. Be careful, all you naysayers may be eating your words when the movie is released.
yeeeaaah, fail. it’s like these people have no respect to the EU and, like this new “Rebels” NONSENSE (…and people thought Clone Wars was bad!!! all of this Rebels hinging on an appearance from Vader?!?! GIMMICK NONSENSE!), just wants to make something up for no other reason than, “we’re better than the countless BEST-SELLING novels that have been huge fan favorites for MANY, MANY, MANY reasons”. FAAIIL!
“awesome”? FAIL.
you sound like the fool who said something about, “what’s next, a lasso?”, as there is such a thing as a “light-whip”. …in the EU. …that a pretty awesome character has.
seriously, you must be about 15 to have that kind of response. …and have never read a single book from the EU. …which surpassed the Original Trilogy in the last 20 or so years as far as “fan favorites”. …and liked exponentially more than the prequels, despite my own like and appreciation of them for what they are.
just “liking it just ’cause it’s SW” is… “ignorant”, for lack of a better term. it’s like if Marvel completely ignored over half of their whole roster, which have been fan favorites for 20-30 years, and just “made up some stuff for some new movies, WHEEEEEE!” there’s been all kinds of “new stuff” for the last friggin’ twenty years that would be far more logical, cooler, and practical than a RIDICULOUS cross-hilt!! SERIOUSLY.
a CROSS-HILT?!?! that doesn’t come DETACHED or SOMETHING ACTUALLY REALLY COOL like a SHOTO, which actually exists in real life AND the Expanded Universe?!?!
Take it from an expert, The SW universe is growing quite well without your BS. The cross hilt works for me. I saw Star Wars in the theater when I was 11…in 1977 ! You must be one of the sad individuals that saw it I, II, III, IV, V and VI order. Just because you saw it that way doesn’t mean you have to hold a grudge on the people that are trying to bring balance to the SW universe. After all…George was losing it WAY before J. J. got the helm.
FYI, since you have been living under a rock (welcome back btw) they are entirely ignoring the EU because, well, its not canon (as stated multiple times by Lucas and friends) and are going to do their own thing. So forget everything EXCEPT the two trilogies, and the TV series (Rebels and Clone Wars)
I like your thought of the cross hilt detaching as a sort of double sided dagger for the off hand…
uhhhh you do know that these new movies act as if the EU never happened. IE Luke isnt married to whats her name jedi spirit from the computer of some ship and much much more. literally. these movies are pretty much just taking a great big dump on every single last bit of EU ever made.
When this guy beats the crap out of everyone who holds a light saber what are you going to do then? Before you judge let’s see how this guy can wield the thing.. the way things are going I don’t count anything out when it comes to movie making these days.. besides I look for all the stops being pulled on this one..
All those other light saber wielding people……Luke…. the only other dude in the galaxy wielding a light saber.
Han shot first!
point 1: The opponents lightsaber could come down and cut off the emitters…..
(I’m going to super geek out here for a second) The lightsaber blade is not ‘pure light’. There is a force field that contains the plasma, which is why blades don’t simply pass through each other. The field could extend pass the small blade and encompass the emitters.
point 2: It’s dangerous.
Yup. He’s a Sith. Danger is his middle name. I’m sure his fighting style will adjust to the type of saber he has.
Thank you. Most of these people aren’t true SW fans. Danger IS the game of the Sith. The light staff is one of the most dangerous weapons made but Darth Maul kicked *ss with it.
Okay, dual blade makes more sense then this lightclaymore. With the dual blade at least you could defend from two points of attack at once. With this thing you are more likely to cut off your own hand or pierce yourself while in combat. I’m glad you like this monstrosity, Disney will be honored.
You’d have to be very careful to not have it aligned with your forearm. If you had to flick the sword up with your wrist to block a shoulder strike, you’d impale your own arm with one of the guards. It actually limits the area of movement around your wrist.
there’s actually demonstrations online about how the cross-guard helps you during a fight without it being completely defensive. sure they would limit your range of movement, as you stated, however if he kept the emitters pointed out and away from his hands and body then he’d be in the safe zone.
I’ve heard plenty about the suspicions of this new saber, and if it’s true this sith was trained using ancient lightsabers, he would have to be insanely experienced for him to show himself in this next sequel (speaking from a matter of opinion, of course). Also, lets get one thing straight right now- would anyone using cross-guard lightsabers be sane? without proper knowledge of one, you could find yourself looking like luke when he met his father for the first time, so this is without a doubt an insane, yet well-versed (in cross-guard lightsabers), sith.
one more point i’d like to make is, if people are expecting a good fight, which i’m sure they know we are, then there HAS to be something else behind this new (or maybe an old face making a reappearance) sith that we are simply overlooking due to the strange new saber he’s wielding. I mean come on, weren’t we all aware that the sword doesn’t make the wielder great but the wielder themselves that must strive to make themselves great?
I really feel bad for all the hate this has caused. it really doesn’t make sense to argue about it before you even watch the movie.
…. then again, maybe i’m just the pacifist movie-goer that goes “ohhhhhh! sweet new saber!” every time they make a new one. from what i’ve seen, though, the new saber is brilliant and anyone else who says otherwise are wrong and/or needs to be a bit more imaginative if they plan on hating on a movie before it even hits theatres.
…and the energy cross-guard is dangerous to the user, not at all practical.
At least cant them upward, toward the blade to give yourself a little more range of motion. lol.
Mmmmm. Did anyone ever think it will be explained in the movie as to why this saber is the way it is? Also, IT’S A SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE!!! I’m surprised people aren’t saying “Lightsabers are impossible to exist.”
um…dude this is a STAR WARS film. its not just any ol’e syfi movie.
Lightsabers could exist, this design is about as useful as light nun-chuks. However you spell it. There are just a lot of practicality flaws that a curved handle or doubled sided sword doesn’t have. The thing that is suppose to protect you posses a direct threat. It’s like having a gun that shoots from both sides of the barrel. Or a seat belt that is make of razor wire. A lot of people didn’t like Jar-Jar.. I didn’t mind him so much. A lot of people didn’t like pod-racing. I didn’t mind that either. But the lightsaber with impractical functions like a guard made of hazardous materials, no.
The new saber with cross bar looks rough and raw. Even the sounds it makes as it fires up is harsh and full of static. I like it. I’m guessing it was made quickly by hand by this mysterious, dark character. If you listen carefully at the tail end of the trailer, after the December 2015 title, you hear what sounds like the original lightsaber sound effect. I think JJ has created something so good, here. Can’t wait.
I don’t care if the cross guard is functional or not. All I care about is that it looks gimmicky, and that doesn’t bode well for the new movie.
The original light saber design from the first movie is still cool. It will always be cool. It’s a sword made of lasers. There’s no reason to mess with it.
I didn’t really care for the double light saber that Darth Maul used in The Phantom Menace either, but it least he could use one side of it as a normal light saber.
Mess with it, mess with it mess with it. If you don’t want anyone to “mess with it” then they should not even be making a movie. The worst thing they could do is to recreate what has already been seen and done. The whole point of continuing to create and make new art is to mess with it. The only way you can ever improve is to change. Most of the time change fails, but the only way you can succeed is to keep trying and failing. The fact that sith and jedi make their own weapons and some of them make different designs makes the universe much more interesting than the cut and paste cookie cutter CG crap we got in the prequels with a dozen uninteresting Jedi all the same, all lacking any real character or meaningful design beyond different color swords. Darth Maul stands out as the one good character design in 3 movies of stale cookie cutter recycled garbage. His weapon was unique, his fighting style was unique, and his look was truly menacing. He was the one positive memorable design in a trilogy full of forgettable garbage. Almost as if allergic to any good design sensibilities they killed off Maul immediately and replaced him with a boring personality-deficient man with a cane-shaped light saber. I’d rather see a trilogy about adult Darth Maul than the prequel garbage we actually got.
Personally, I thought Darth Maul was killed off way too soon. He was a badass sith. He had so much potential. His appearance alone was intimidating. Plus his light saber. What an amazing villian he would’ve been. I think he should’ve not got killed off till right before Anakin became Vader.
Totally agree. Also agree that ‘messing’ with it is ok – even essential. I don’t LIKE the hilt, and would lose it, or try light sabre nun chucks, but that’s just my hole yakkin’. What say thee, oh yakker on high of all things Star Wars?
Light saber nun chuck! You do a “Bruce Lee” maneuver and your whole arm falls off…
This is a dumb comment considering every single lightsaber is unique to the wielder. Every force user creates their own lightweapon to their own specifications and style. You don’t know crap.
The trailer including the light saber is just completely BAD ASS! Calm down people.
I’m with you on this one. Aesthetically pleasing even if it is nerdly dysfunctional (only nerds notice and the franchise is mainstream enough for marginalization). It’s it’s gothic, it’s primal, it’s dark and medieval, and yes – BAD ASS!!!
LOL, this geek fight is the best thing to happen since the Ferguson chocolate riot of 2014.
Some people just are not happy unless they are bitching about something.
That lightsaber is awesome!
badass saber!! Have any of you actually held a claymore? I have and the crossguard comes no where near my wrist, so this is very practical and awesome! Haters gonna hate hate hate. SW 4 Life!
light sabers are not great swords. and CAN be used with one hand.
this is kinda ridiculous. these previous Star Trek movies have been a TOTAL JOKE. “oh, nooooooo, the ship’s going down and we’re all gonna diiiiieeeee”. yeah, the old black and white show would like the plot of every other episode back, please. lol “we’re gonna make the Spock haaaaands against the glaaaass”?!?! SERIOUSLY?!? XD
new Spock, arguably the worst cameo in film history, living waaaaaaay out in the middle of nowhere so as to not affect “the new timeline”. …except when he’s, you know, “needed for something; which in that case, just find me and ask!” LOL
seriously, Mr. Abrams and ALL THOSE INVOLVED W/ THESE SHOWS/MOVIES/ETC… Clone Wars > Rebels, first of all. …and people hated the Clone Wars. …’cause it kinda sucked, even though i dug it. Maul’s part, and the reflection of it in the novels/EU books, was pretty awesome. …but hinging the whole thing on one character’s “amazing cameo!” didn’t work out too well. …like how Rebels is apparently dangling Vader around at people, or whatever. just halfway through the series so far, it’s still mostly sitting on our DVR ’cause it seems a little too lame, sorry!
oh, and… YOU BETTER NOT GET ANY “LAME DUST” FROM THAT PILE THAT IS “the ‘new’ Star Trek” ON ANY OF THIS STAR WARS, MR. ABRAMS, or your career will tank. it should’ve already, those ST movies are TERRIBLE. they make the TRANSFORMERS MOVIES look “entertaining and unpredictable”! the second ST film was more predictable, corny, and boring than the 1st one! SEQUEL FAIL!
in short: pay much more homage to the Expanded Universe or miss out on a TON of money while ruining your careers. i don’t even hate on Jar Jar, he’s such a secondary character that he doesn’t even really register on my radar, but i can see why people hate that guy.
…and have never let it go.
the EU was based off of BEST-SELLING NOVELS. if you flat-out ignore people like the Solo/Skywalker children, Mara Jade, THRAWN, and COUNTLESS others (including DARTH BANE, which should literally be the very 1st ever “Rated R Star Wars film”. …that would break records that this upcoming one will not. …mark my words… these new Marvel films have been selling faster than a Kardashian will take off her clothes to show what a ‘good mother’ she is for a reason… FANS CAN SEE THEIR RESPECT AND RESPECTFUL HANDLING OF THE MATERIAL THAT THE FANS HAVE LOVED FOR DECADES)…
…then you’ll sincerely ruin this all faster than Jar Jar Binks did Ep. 1. (hint: apparently being, according to most, “his very first sentence”)
who is making these decisions and how much are they being paid?
You got all of that from on 88 second clip? You are a sad individual
Maybe if you fix up your God awful grammar, part of what you’re saying could be construed as a legit argument.
He makes one mistake, uses “on” instead of “a” and you call it “God awful grammar?” Hell, maybe his intention was to use both words and he just forgot the “A.”
I am saying this as a huge Star Wars fan since the day the first movie hit theaters….GET OVER YOURSELVES! I am sorry that the movies aren’t turning out the way YOU would have made them. YOU didn’t make them. I think my car should fly and be equipped with laser cannons, but I’m not going to boycott the automotive industry because they aren’t catering to my every whim.
Agreed.
At first I thought they had run out of lightsaber ideas, because the cross-guard of a sword is to keep your hand from sliding into the blades. But then I realized that the cross-guard on this lightsaber must be to keep another dueling lightsaber from sliding into the wielders hand.
The lightsaber reminds me of the sword optimus prime had in the age of extinction,Even Optimus prime said He should be recognized as a knight before picking up the sword.If anything the design of the lightsaber might be specifically designed for a royal to handle,in the movie.
Where’s the “anger”…I don’t really see much.
As a die hard Star Wars fan, I am rolling my eyes at these people. Why was there no such controversy over Lumiya’s light whip? Maybe because it was in a book. Who cares. WHO CARES? Did you not see the way that saber was flickering? The rerouted energy to the crossguard is causing it. There’s your science. I can also see some hardcore Christians linking this to an upside down cross. Know why? Because this is the internet. So forget how gorgeous and masterful everything else looks. Let’s tear apart this detail, shall we? Because it’s totally not suppose to represent a crossguard sword from medieval influence. Let’s also focus on the fact that I did not see a single lens flare throughout the entire trailer. THANKS JJ!
… And these are all my arguments on why I don’t give a fuck.
How do you know that the cross guards have any cutting properties. Maybe they only shield. Remember this is sci-fi anything is possible.
I like how people are arguing over a weapon that only exists in fictional works. It can do anything the respective autors/directors want it to do. So there.
Its just unsettling…
You idiots who are bitching about the lightsaber are absolute morons. RELAX? Wait until the movie is out and see how it is used. I’m sure there is a purpose for how it looks. Not just cosmetic.
I think it’s really cool. I bet he will use the sides to stab, probably can just light up the sides for stealth kills. The look is classic Jedi knight, looks like a knights sword. Also potentially religious symbolism. People criticizing need to get a life.
First world problems
These negative comments about the hilt are from the same group that insisted not to use Hamill, Fisher and Ford because they were too old.
He is an Inquisitor I presume…that is why the saber is crossed. So the dumbass Jar Jar soccer ball gets nothing and the new saber gets net scorned:)…lol
The material is phrik. A metallic alloy that is lightsaber resistant. This is not new. It was in Revenge of the Sith.
does it come in purple
Perhaps the crossguard is lined with cortosis. Perhaps they’re mini-shield generators, and the flame is extreme heat?
Get the fuck over it.
Please, please, please Don’t make this movie about the new generation and relegate the old faces that everybody loves to secondary idiotic roles. Please don’t make a movie that nobody wants and continue the Phantom menace legacy.
Hate to be so accurate about this, but wouldn’t you chop through that lightsaber guard?
I mean it clearly has a small part that projects the guard sticking out and vulnerable.
You dumb punks were bound to bitch about something. I’m tired of all the complaining. Just like all the dumb asses that bitched about EP1-3. Get over it. You don’t know shit.
Who the hell cares if it works or doesn’t work? It looks cool. The Star Wars Universe isn’t real. None of these characters exist and if the Sith Lord that owns the new light saber is a bad ass then he’ll know how to use it. I’m a huge Star Wars fan and I can care less what you 50 year old virgins think of the new light saber. You just watched a teaser trailer about the next installment of one of the greatest franchises in film history and you all are hung up on a light saber? Screw that! Did you see the new x-wing fighters? Did you see the Millennium Falcon at the end? How many of you thought you would ever see that ship fly again on the big screen? Get a life. It’s a movie, enjoy if for what it is. Pure entertainment. retards.
I think this new lightsaber idea is bad ass. I just don’t like how it appears to be more like a flame than a beam of light like all the other movies.
Eh, Star Wars is all fake anyway. You want to see a glimpse of the future, look at Star Trek. A lot of the tech from Star Trek is under development as we speak, but none of the tech from Star Wars, except for that which duplicates that from Star Trek, has had any hope of development.
The basis of the new lightsaber with the cross guard is very simple people. New design equals new toy/collectible sales. Old designs, fewer sales, to new fans only.
Why, exactly, does anyone care? It’s not like this thing is real. IT’S A FECKING MOVIE! Suspend belief and just enjoy it!
Why does everyone assume that the cross-guard is a structural weakness? Whether it exists or not in the Star Wars universe is irrelevant. Wouldn’t it be obvious that the cross-guard’s blade emitters, you know, the surrounding area of the blade’s base, is resistant to the intense heat of a lightsaber? which would mean, if the blade itself hasn’t burn right through it or around it yet, it’s doubtful any other blade can cut through it. Does anyone know what blade emitters are made of anyway? Also the fact that nobody knows what exactly this particular lighsaber is made of because the movie isn’t even out yet. Can’t people just relax and enjoy a really cool trailer?
Personally, why it should matter, there been many personalized lightsabers over the movies. Darth Maul dual blade, Dookus curve hilt. Starkiller mace hilt, and the saber baton that one chick had in SW: Force unleashed. A saber is as personalized as the fighter who uses it, if he has a saber with a saber guard like that, then he is planning to use it as much a part of a weapon then for defence…but ether case, it is not our movie, and we have yet to see this thing in action too.
You realize light sabers and Star Wars isn’t real, right?
I feel like no matter what they do everyone is going to attack them damned if you do damned if you don’t maybe they should not make anymore that might keep everyone who cries and moans mouth shut.
REALLY? We’re criticizing the goddamn hilt?
My biggest concern is that the trailer didn’t really feel like a Star Wars movie and more like a science fiction thiller like Interstellar or Elysium.
If the hilt serves a purpose other than just looking cool, then I don’t mind. Keep in mind, it’s a TEASER, as in “we don’t know everything about it yet.”
When the movie comes out in full, THEN, you have my permission to cry.
(Yes, I DID just quote The Dark Knight Rises. Sue me.)
I can see this working two ways:
1. This guy can turn the hilt on and off at will, so he’ll know when it isn’t needed and just not use it.
2. He’d have to be really, really, really good at using it without cutting off his hand.
There, we just figured something out about our villain: he’s either smart, badass, or both. And none of those sound like bad things to me.
I have a feeling that when Kevin Cashen was consulted, he was told of the lightsaber crossguard and didn’t see a picture of it. If you look carefully, it is evident that when the lightsaber is turned off, the handle still forms a lower case “t” and a portion of the cross guard will not be composed of light and, therefore, would never contact the wielder’s hand. I think it’s an excellent concept. People are able to fight with swords lacking crossguards, but if I were the opponent, I would certainly attack the hand holding a guard-less sword in hopes of even nicking the hand and forcing my opponent to switch to his/her weaker hand. Most swords in history had some type of protection for the wielder’s hand, save for those which were disguised as non-sword items (such as canes, umbrellas, etc.)
looks like a greatsword lightsaber.
Are you people kidding? You had no idea what the double-edge LS in Phantom Menace was going to be like so just hold your horses on this one.
Will probably end up making most of you pee in your pants.
Fuck everyone, I love it. It’s not like all light sabers are going to look like this now. Calm the f__ck down.
i bet the sword can be transformed into a light bow. That would be pretty cool.
The saber looks super raw. Its fuzzy and seemingly not tightly controlled. Maybe those are energy release of some sort and not actual function because its poorly made? IDK not really educated on how they work, just an idea.
From a practical view point, the cross guards are akin to the cross guards of a long sword; to protect the hand of the wielder. If anything, it makes a ton more sense than that of the traditional light saber. That being said, those of you who liken this change to that of the abomination that is Jar Jar are no true fans of the original material, and are just bitching because that is what fan bois do when things don’t turn out the way they wanted.
how many tweets can we shove into a story?
How about we just wait and see how the sithy-looking guy uses it before we say it’s dumb
I have the answer. It is: who gives a f*#k ? It`s a movie about aliens, interstellar travel, telekinesis, laser guns, robots, and swordfighting knights. Are you REALLY going to say “this is unrealistic” ????
http://i.imgur.com/eHnOTYZ.jpg
Check it
Super Star Destroyers are only 8 kilometers in length.
Its funny way back in 1977 when the first Star Wars came out I never heard of any nerds complain back then on how the Tie Fighters look dumb bow or how Luke complains a lot. Even when return of the Jedi came out I never heard of anyone give a negative response on why Luke’s lightsaber is green instead of blue. This is the beginning of the “nit-pick I need to complain of what I see cause I can and force my negative comment on the world” mentality. Why can’t anyone just be happy that they are doing another star wars?
That’s Nikola Tesla’s “Order of the Flaming Sword” wikipedia org/wiki/Tesla:_Man_Out_of_Time
I personally think that it looks great and has very practical implications. It also looks a lot like how Lucas originally had the lightsabers designed, that sort of energy beam feel to it.
The fact that it has that guard makes it look a lot more ritualistic almost like a medieval weapon and who says he’s even going to use two hands? We don’t know what dueling style this Sith has yet. The fact that the “laser” itself looks fiery and has mild glints of electricity running up it is, in my opinion, fantastic!! It makes it a lot more realistic and, dare I say, magical? And isn’t that what the Force is meant to be all about?
I’m actually thrilled and can’t wait for this!
I cant believe this is happening! I thought to myself this Sith is going to be one of a kind. Then all you stupid people had to ruin it for me with your dumbness. Get a life you losers!!!
Now everything makes sense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbkMEBwYvbo
There are a few times in Phantom Menace where Darth Maul would have killed himself with that Double Blade had it actually been real. Honestly the one that bothers me is the Sith in the Rebels CG series. That one is an accident waiting to happen. I really like how the saber itself looks different than all the other movies. A saber that is arced like a Katana would be pretty sweet along with Sai sabers.
P.S. The Jedi and Sith both build their own sabers from scratch and have to learn different fighting styles for each one individually and also learn many styles for a basic saber. I would assume like anyone who trains with weapons they would build their weapon to best fit their particular fighting style.
P.P.S. All you people out there that are complaining about the light saber from literally 3 seconds of footage and saying you are going to boycott are liars. I will say this now, this will be the 3rd best Star Wars movie. Empire, Hope, The Force Awakens.
Let me put it this way. The reason many people don’t like the lightsaber design is because they aren’t force sensitive. The hilt design can be used by jedi/sith because they KNOW HOW TO USE THE FORCE. I does look silly but really think of it’s uses. First off, by design, the lightsaber never prevented someone from losing an appendage. Having a saber hilt could really prevent someone from sliding the saber down past the hilt and severing a hand or two. Secondly, you could use the hilt to inflict minor damage and distraction long enough to commit a final blow. Lastly, IT’S A MOVIE! Were it not for the use of imagination we wouldn’t have Star Wars in the first place. Or really any movie that isn’t based on reality. So to recap, new lightsaber hilt is: protective, useful in a fight, and IMAGINATIVE. Something people apparently lack lately!
As long as there ain’t no General Grievous, or Jar Jar Binks in this…I’m all for whatever they want to throw at me. Even a three bladed lightsaber. I liked the teaser. I thought it looked good. I especially liked the little rolly polly droid.
The whole sword looks weak and goofy. The lightbeam looks weak. It seems to be flickering. I understand them wanting to include a hilt. But, it would have been better if it was mechanical and deployed from the saber whenever it is activated.
Bottom line is that it looks cool. Besides, lightsabers are physically impossible, and it is a movie.
Bad idea, J.J. – It’s just a computer graphic, so get rid of it and do it the right way, please? While the entire lightsabre concept of a laser beam sword is contrary to sound physics, the hand guard REALLY is. Lose it. Please!
Anyone who knows anything about force-users would know that they make their sabers specifically to their fighting style. So even though it may seem impractical to us, it’s perfectly natural to that wielder.
I personally think that the lightsaber hilt doesn’t really matter. What does matter is that in ;ess than 13 months we will be given a new Star Wars movie to enjoy. It’s whining little pricks like these that made George Lucas not want to make any more Star Wars movies. Stop pissing and moaning and just enjoy it. If you don’t like the lightsaber then don’t go to see the movie. It will make it easier for me to get in to the theaters to see it myself.
This argument is dumb, and has been a pain in the ass ever since it first came up.
If you start questioning the look of a lightsaber, this is not the movie you’re looking for. Move along.
Oh Nerds: just let it go and enjoy the ride. The new movie is going to be awesome.
And remember, The best part about living in your parents basement is no one can hear you scream.
There may be DIFFERENT light sabers in the movie. Maybe the sides have an on/off switch? Maybe jedi knights know enough to NOT chop off their fingers.
Go enjoy the movie when it comes out or don’t. We didn’t get to decide what happens so we’re gonna get what we get just like the prequels which had many terrible qualities but I still enjoyed them. I feel that the movie as a whole will still be awesome even if there are some questionable aspects.
What’s really pathetic is that in the nerd community, anyone with a negative, objective opinion about any given topic is not allowed to voice their opinion, and if they do they are automaticlly “haters”. Get a life fanboys!
I think it looks pretty sweet personally….. until we see it in action I don’t think you can really judge functionality. Then again lightsabers aren’t real to begin with people so do we need to debate it this much….? Probably not.
The main problem is that the emitters on the guard stick out so far that another lightsaber blade sliding down the first one would simply chop off the emitters, unless they are made of cortosis or something (in which case there would be no need for the rest of the guard to be made of energy).
I think people are just mad because the teaser was actually pretty damn good. So they have to find some insignificant crap, like a new lightsaber, to justify their negativity.
Who cares about the design/usefulness of the cross-hilt? Does it provide defense against saber attacks aimed at the hand/wrist? Maybe, maybe not, but I’ll tell you this: a normal lightsaber provides ZERO defense against hand-removal. Any argument made in defense of the defending capabilities of a regular saber can also be applied to the new one.
And I was super excited when I saw the new look, because it’s just badass. Forget functionality and enjoy the coolness.
Let’s talk about a movie prop, oh wait, it’s an iconic movie prop. Even if it is nerdly dysfunctional, it is aesthetically pleasing, because it’s a freakin movie. I like it – it’s gothic, dark, and oh so controversial. It did it’s job.
YOU ALL NEED A FUCKIN LIFE!!!!!! THEY’RE NOT YOUR MOVIES. IF YOU DON’T LIKE DON’T WATCH AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
It’s a Sith prototype before the light sabre construction was perfected. Those ‘flares’ are exhaust caused by the unstable nature of the crystals first used to build the fuckin things!
It’s a Sith prototype before the light sabre construction was perfected. Those ‘flares’ are exhaust caused by the unstable nature of the crystals first used to build them!
I think the cross-hilt saber looks really cool and impressive…until you stop and think, “wait a minute, that’s just really stupid.”
The problem I think is whomever came up with that stopped at the latter and didn’t continue on to the latter. “It looks cool, who cares if it makes any sense”.
It wouldn’t serve the intended purpose of a cross hilt and it just makes it more hazardous to the one wielding it. First, the emitters would have to be recessed in the hilt to not simple get cut off. Given that they protrude, they make for a more cumbersome object for carrying around when not deployed. Those two are especially bad because, given that you are going to have a cross-hilt, they didn’t even do it the way it would properly be done. And you add more energy beams that are even more likely to end up just cutting yourself? It’s not enough to be concerned about getting cut with your own blade you add more to worry about. And the more you worry about your own weapon cutting you, the more likely you get killed by your opponent.
Well, sure, people want it to look cool, but people also expect things to make some semblance of sense. Even in make-believe, things still have to make sense. And a cross-hilt light saber does not make sense.
I’m more pissed about T.I.Efighters that fly in atmosphere! When the hell did tht chagE??
In “The Empire Strikes Back,” when the Millennium Falcon is pursued by TIE Fighters through the skies near Cloud City.
SHUT UP NERDS!!! It’s broad sword lightsaber and it is BAD ASS!!!!
Well, if you have to go all the way to the expanded novels to justify the energy hilt and say the saber is made from some exotic material that’s lightsaber blade resistant, why not just make the hilt out of that material instead of two small blades that can take your hand off when you twirl the saber?
Just sayin’…
Well, since a lightsaber with a hand guard like that is canon, these “fans” should do their research before complaining.
Just because it wasn’t in episodes 1-6 doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Wait till people see the lightsaber whip or the Tron style lightsaber disks. They are gonna lose their minds.
People are going this crazy over something this small on a teaser trailer, for a movie that’s not due out for over another year? I wouldn’t be surprised if J.J. Abrams kept every little detail under wraps for the rest of production. I realize that after the terrible prequels we are expecting a lot, but good God people give it a rest. You have another year to overthink every little aspect of this film, for now the trailer looked amazing. Just be grateful Lucas isn’t behind the camera. Sheesh.
I’ve seen the trailer (along with another leaked one) several times, with another SW adult fan, my 7 y/o son and 15 y/o daughter. The new LS design does not make alot of sense, although this is a TEASER, so it may be some kind of experiment, or maybe even a dream sequence or future-sight. With the use of all the normal crystals in lightsabers, there has never been mention of the dark crystals that have debuted in SW the Clone Wars. (see: http://clonewars.wikia.com/wiki/Darksaber). Maybe this is a hybrid. But as to its owner and why it was created, we will have to wait for further trailers or the feature film. Conclusion–hyperbole until proven. Coolness factor: meh.
It is just one lightsaber design. Not the design for all future lightsabers fellow geeks. I think it is interesting,especially visually. Dissing it means you need a life. Try to have fun. None of it is real.
Been a reenactor, and swordsman, and have done alot of fighting…never hit myself with the crossguard in the hand or arm, its not really possible, cause you cant bend your wrist that far back…could be danger to your body, in a close contact, but the blade has the same problem…obviously the emitters are laser proof…you want actually stupidly dangerous…try Darth Maul’s quarterstaff thing
What doesn’t make sense is that if the hilt is constructed from a lightsaber resistant material, why have lightsaber blades on it? If the metal blocks a saber all the same, and introduces no risk of accidentally hurting yourself, then why not just make the whole crossguard out of cortosis or whatever?
I think they chose the design less out of functionality and more out of symbolism. Star wars is known to take from christianity. This lightsaber may have the cross design to be symbol. The cross is the symbol of one rising from the dead. This could be luke, although he did not die, but is being re-awakened.
Give it a chance. It might be a fairly clever way of expressing some elements of the mystery Sith’s personality and backstory, if (as I suspect), this is Adam Driver playing the Jacen Solo role, who’s hidden his dark side obsession from the ‘rents, is collecting Sith artifacts and has rebuilt a clunky antique lightsaber, badly (shows he’s new at this – hence the flickering), while going into the whole light side/dark side tailspin (as implied by the v/o).
Anyone with a strong opinion either way should go out and test their lightsabres and tell us which works better and if one is impractical. Disney would probably pay for severed limbed for the clearly needed practical information on the design.
Oh. Science – fiction … riiiiight. Looks cool > nerd feels.
Stephen Colbert already solved this, the beam begins inside, not at the ends of the small cross bars lol
http://www.hulu.com/watch/720822
I love star wars but I feel the controversy really is more buried in that most aren’t happy about Disney sticking it’s hand in the SW universe but it’s clearly a..a….it’s a very Disney style sword and star wars is not about knights and fair maidens. It was not a smart thing for Disney to change on their first go of it. If I had to guess…based on rebels…and clone wars this movie is going to be an option about Han solo striking out with his two under appreciated children who he doesn’t trust to take care of themselves to save uncle Luke. Meeting all kinds of danger in th process from a dark Sith that wants to kill everyone. Meanwhile back at the castle Leia will drink a potion be put into a sleep only to be woken by true loves kiss. Meanwhile the children prove themselves but not before one runs off in anger and has to be saved and all is forgiven. Uncle Luke is saved from the evil and they rush back back to the falcon fly home and arrive just in time to stop a space battle between rebels and imperial forces. Han kisses Leia and they are all a family again and they agree that family should always stick together and support and believe in each other…
But you know that’s just my sarcasm talking….
For those who think the new saber was a bad thing you are wrong, and here is way. There is a story for this new saber that i can not fine, so that means this new star wars well tell that to us, and I love new thing, and i know some of you don’t. Now we know this is a Sith Lord and just a Sith dont know yet, but when we do we well all know why the saber is made like it is. I think that the sith is a old sith that was died and the saber he has is the first LIGHT-SABER for a dark one. But i dont know if it is or not. All i know is that its new and i want to know more about it, Thank You.
Its a “Swaber”
I’ve been reading these arguments for weeks. Don’t you guys think that if a Sith is going to incorporate something so dangerous into his lightsaber, he’d spend a little time…ya know, training with it?
He probably just adapted his fighting style to match the modifications. It’s that simple. No need to get all EU vs Canon, suspension of disbelief, what materials really can or cannot block a lightsaber, etc.
While certainly not AS dangerous, someone who isn’t trained in firearm use could potentially hurt himself (apples and oranges, but they’re still both fruits).