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The other day, Matt Dixon and I were having a discussion, trying to solve all the problems of sales. As is often, the case in these discussions, we started reflecting on a lot of broad and, possibly, esoteric issues.

We started talking about what ultimately may be a Chicken/Egg issue. We were considering, “Where is the next big rock to turn over in driving sales effectiveness? Do we focus on driving individual performance or do we look at overall organizational excellence?”

To jump ahead, the answer is, “We have to do both!” Further, the answer to where do we start is, “It depends.”

Sometimes, however, I think we spend too much time focusing on the individual salespeople.

When I talk to top executives about their revenue growth and sales problems, ultimately, the conversation get to, “We have to fix the sales people, they just aren’t performing!” Ultimately, we look at things like turnover/attrition, quota performance, revenue performance, win/loss, activity, do we have the right people, do they have the right skills. The focus is on salespeople as individuals, seldom on the overall performance of the pieces/parts of the organization.

Inevitably there are issues with the individual sales performance. The execs put in action plans to improve performance. The action plans are all over the place: Fire the low performers, invest in training, invest in tools, invest in new programs to help the salespeople, develop new incentives, focus on activity levels.

All the actions focus on salespeople as individuals.

There may be some blips of improvement, but often these are short-lived or insufficient. Inevitably, these leaders look at the next fix for individual performance. Give them more training, give them more tools, fire the low performers, give them more programs……..

We keep cycling through things that focus on the improvement of individuals. Yet somehow, performance improvements aren’t realized.

Perhaps the performance issues lie somewhere else. Perhaps the overall function of the organization and the interrelationships between all the pieces/parts the sales organization is where some of our challenges are.

But it’s seldom that we look at performance from an overall organizational perspective.

In most organizations and complex B2B sales, the salesperson is dependent on a whole number of things for their individual success. It may be specialists, it may be support from product management or marketing, it can be any number of things critical to the ability of the salesperson to lead the sales effort.

In most organizations, particularly larger organizations, the salesperson spends a huge amount of time navigating the organization to get things done in moving their deals forward.

In many organizations, the salespeople are distracted by well-intended people (marketing, product management, customer service) doing their jobs.

All of these have impacts on sales performance. All of these are organizational issues and organizational performance issues.

Few of these are “fixed” by focusing on salespeople as individuals improving their individual capability.

Yet it’s seldom that executives look at these organizational performance/dynamics issues and how they impact sales performance—at least until they become crippling.

I’m seeing more and more organizational performance issues impacting individual sales performance. For example, it’s not uncommon for us to see “Time Available For Selling” at 9-22%. As we assess these issues, we see good salespeople distracted by the complexity of getting things done in their own organizations.

Increasing voluntary attrition is another indicator of organizational complexity (or bad front line sales management). We’ve seen numerous cases with unusually high voluntary attrition rates–and very good salespeople leaving. Typically it’s because they find it difficult getting things done in their organizations or have managers that have driven them out of the business.

Driving the highest levels of sales performance requires constant attention on everything that impact performance. Maximizing the abilities of individuals to perform, as well as tuning the overall organization to maximize its collective performance. Focusing on one or the other won’t solve the problem.

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